ZF 4HP24 Support

A forum for discussing applications and implementations of the MegaShift transmission controller code for the GPIO from B&G. This can control up to 8-speeds and 6 shift solenoids (plus a 16x9 table for controlling a PWM line pressure valve). It has manual and fully automatic modes (16x9 load x speed table), with under and over rev-limit protection, and full data logging of all inputs and outputs (among many other abilities). A TransStim to test your completed board is also available.
nebraska_e28
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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Peter Florance wrote:
nebraska_e28 wrote:Thank you for the useful information Lance, very much appreciated. ;) If a person had a service manual & could identify which wires control each part of the trans, would it be helpful to log voltages on each to gain some understanding of what each circuit is going under a given rpm & load? From there that data could be used to figure how to properly wire the trans up to MS. Just thinking aloud here.

To the OP, didn't mean to strike a nerve! I intended to bring up a dead subject in case there was anyone out there with some new developments, or even someone that's toyed around with this. :x
I found some ZF docs that seemed pretty good. I'm trying to talk Todd into it. ;)
Good deal! Let me know if I can be of assistance. :D

I have a few docs I've compiled also.
landybehr
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

Post by landybehr »

don´t know whether that:

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is of any information.
It´s out of a link: http://www.7-forum.com/forum/5/4hp24-wa ... 690-2.html from a BMW-7series forum where people seem to control the 4HP24 already. Thanks to Nosch for sending the link to me.

I could try to register there to ask for info - if only I knew what to ask for. I have read the "checklist" from Lance, but maybe there is some manual printed by ZF where all this is contained ? Someone wrote he had a wiring diagram in that thread.
landybehr
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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Hi,

the diagram above will have sth. to do with a:

-Siemens LOGO 12/24 Rc

which the BMW people use to control the ZF box.
landybehr
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

Post by landybehr »

Hi,

maybe some valueable? information could be found here:

http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Bu ... agnose.pdf
(I know, this relates to the 4HP22, but maybe they are similar)

(from this website http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Bu ... echlib.htm)
(there are other .pdf´s, I saw one with a description of the pins of the connector from the ZF. And in the Member-area there is a hint to a wiring diagram, if only I had access ...)



(Lance, I think this supersedes my PM to you)
landybehr
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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this seems to answer quite some of the questions that Lance asked a page ahead:

http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Bu ... ations.pdf
nebraska_e28
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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Thanks landybehr for the links.

Now that I have MS running on my car, I may take a stab at this separate project over the winter.
landybehr
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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nebraska_e28 wrote:Thanks landybehr for the links.
I´ve only been the herald. Credits need to go to "Nosch", who found the links.
Itssimple
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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Hello , im new to megashift - but am going to take the plunge and try and get the zf4hp24 box to work.. Has anyone got any further with it yet? I have found a few more pages with details in them but nothing substantial yet!
nebraska_e28
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

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Itssimple wrote:Hello , im new to megashift - but am going to take the plunge and try and get the zf4hp24 box to work.. Has anyone got any further with it yet? I have found a few more pages with details in them but nothing substantial yet!
I have yet to finish this & have most of the controller built. It's been a while since I looked at my notes but IIRC the biggest questions I had unanswered were:

1. When should the torque converter lockup & unlock?
2. At what frequencies should line pressure be modulated?
3. Can the trigger wheel inside the 4hp tranny be used as a speed sensor to MS & if so does some type of conditioning circuit need to be built?

Keep me posted on how things come out for you. This would be a very cool advance for this tranny, especially for those of us already running MegaSquirt for ecu.
E.T. Coevorden
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Re: ZF 4HP24 Support

Post by E.T. Coevorden »

Hi all,

We have the ZF 4HP24 running with a MS3.

Only shifting is harsh. Manual gear change works ok.
Anyone else?
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